just heard that's the amount of money the amateur association at hampden have in the bank a bloody disgrace and it makes worse my club who were loyal members of this league had to fold due to lack of funds, and the guy who is the treasurer of the amateur association is the top man in this league and he was always telling us at meetings to attend the agm for the benefit of our clubs, makes you wonder who really gained, not the clubs

rant over

With many clubs struggling and paying money for 3g pitches etc why does the amatuer association need that amount of money. Surely there are ways all member clubs could be helped. Maybe cut cup fees for example. No9s club can't be the only one that has folded because of lack of money. The SAFA is meant to promote the amatuer game. Surprised clubs don't go to the agm and kick up about £300,000 in bank!

I might be wrong here but we seem to be missing the point here about teams folding,i am going to mention 3 teams names here and forgive me if i am being suspicous here and perhaps jumping to conclussions however we are quick to blame the association for not adhering to their duties as far as money and dues are concerned,
FALKIRK AMS,EDDLEWOOD AND OLD KILPATRICK,there are 3 teams that allegations of monies being paid were levelled at them and after trying for several years to be the top dogs failed and realised that money doesnt guarantee success,and as soon as the going got tough these teams up sticks and chucked it as they couldnt handle the fact that there was many teams going about that were more than a match for them and went about their business correctly so instead of sticking around and fighting for results they chucked it,but rumour has it Eddlewood are looking to come back into the league next season,surely not!!!!!!!,and these clubs are no more,yet the clubs that have been going for many many years are still going as they go about things correctly,as a club i would rather we fail with our concious clear than profess to be a top club and all along know we are cheating the whole scenario of amateur football!!

And a side note to be answered please,what do we think is more wrong???
An association having lots of poppy in the bank or a team having the cheek to call themselves amateur openly handing their star striker an envelope on a Saturday with lots of lolly in it!!!!
The team in question have signed a couple of players recently that have left senior clubs where they were on decent contracts to sign for this team,and as a side issue,one of these players left the senior club and was added to the scottish amateur set up without playing a single game for his new amateur team,only my opinion but can this be right??????Where are peoples morals????

Henry

"FALKIRK AMS,EDDLEWOOD AND OLD KILPATRICK,there are 3 teams that allegations of monies being paid were levelled at them and after trying for several years to be the top dogs failed"

In my opinion, Eddlewood were the top dogs on a couple of occassions! Most of the 'top teams' are only interested in winning the Scottish and West/East.

I wouldnt say Eddlewood 'failed' as you put it. The success they had was impressive.

Don't know anything about Old Kilpatrick but can you tell me how Falkirk Ams and Eddlewood failed??

I will tell you exactly how Falkirk and Eddlewood failed Bazza.
These 2 teams were started less than 10 years ago,their main objective was to go and win the biggest prize of all namely the scottish cup,to be fair to Eddlewood they succeeded in their quest but when the going got tough and other teams started to get the better of them they chucked it,they took the easy way out and now they are looking to get back in to the best league in Scotland which is in my opinion shameful!!!
Falkirk ams,tried many many times to get accepted into the league that really matters namely the central league,and after they got knocked back from there there they tried to get into the Cally,but both these leagues realised that this team were all that was wrong with the ammy game.In my opinion this team were all that was wrong with amateur football and went against all that us decent people believed in,is it a conincidence that once these two teams realised that evryone could see through them they chucked it???
The quicker the amateur game gets rid of these teams like Falkirk,Eddlewood,Hurlford,Old Kilpatrick,Wellhouse,The mighty Drum the better,everyone knows what these teams are all about yet it is allowed to go unpunished!!!!Rant Over!!!!!

Take you are involved at Colville since no mention of them!! Or are you just another Colville lover?? Either way your a bit of a muppet!!

Bluenose
henry canny be a CP man/lover/fan or whatever. Do they not dish out 'expenses'???

Canny see Some of their existing squad leavin top Junior sides just for the love of Amo fitba, or for the excellent Set up CP have???

Played against Kilpatrick, they never paid players at all - good bunch of boys into bargain. Absurd to think their players got paid.

100% right with kilpatrick dougie. think they would
still be going if they never left safl setup

Maybe mate. I don't think them leaving was a major factor in the folding though. That's only through conversation with the 2 boys we signed when they folded tho - general consensus might show otherwise.

henryh1 never heard so much poopy none of them teams you mentioned have players good enough to get payed

Blue nose / MULVEY .... henry h1 has not got anything to do with Colville Park, and as i told you when i asked you to join colville park before you joined Drumchapel utd,that this club does not give money to ANY player in any shape or form ( and that includes expenses ).

Kilpatrick most certainly didn't pay a penny. Reason the club folded was because not enough players turned up for pre-season training on several occasions! Pure and simple.

And claims the Drum pay are a disgrace! And completely unfounded. Don't think an extra 10er or a score on a Saturday would make that much difference to most of the boys there.

I was on the committee and Eddlewood didn't pay any player. Don't know who starts this rubbish. Also to clarify, Eddlewood had paid their league fees and the cup fees for this season. Note we had our opening fixtures from the CSAFL. What happened is that our long term Manager had to give up due to promotion at work. A new manager came in but up to 8 players left, their choice, and went to other clubs. The new manager then decided to pack it in a week before the season was due to start after the team with the players we had left, got well beaten by 2 NSAFL teams. As such the remaining players looked for teams to play for. The CSAFL were fantanstic in trying to help (proposed delayed start for us) but we then could not get a further new manager and team together in time.

Can confirm 100% with Dougie that Kilpatrick at no time paid players. I knew all the management and none of them were in the position to pay players. As local rivals I wouldn't be defending them if I thought this was true. As posted already lack of commitment to pre-season training and also holidays caused them to fold.

The funk is spot on in terms of Kilpatrick which was a pity as the club was getting better and better. As for Eddlewood, unfortunately that is pretty much the same story as to why a lot of clubs fold.

There seems to be a great deal of debabe regarding the payment of players. I've heard it for years. At first it was Colville, then it was the Drum, then it was Eddlewood. It is bollocks! I know of one team, who aren't even anywhere near the level of challenging for any trophies, who bought some of their players boots. If they guy has money and wants to do that then fair play to him.

But teams don't pay. I keep hearing it recently in regard to the Drum and, as far as I'm concerned, it is simply people trying to knock what the club have achieved.

It's time to accept the top teams are the top teams because they have the best players. End of!

looks as my topic was hi jacked and ended up going on about players being paid.
Can assure you my club never folded by paying players we were skint that's the reason we went out the game
paying for mandatory things like personal & liability insurance which should be by choice maybe its not because of commission given to the association
also the speakers & player of the year nights tickets all was to much for us, yes we knew that before we joined
now running a club in the sal and was at their meeting last week and the committee a reducing leagues fees to clubs wish the association would do likewise with the 300k